Albert Reynolds instructed John Main that Eire is “not dominated by Rome”, throughout a gathering during which the Irish aspect expressed frustration on the perspective of unionists to talks on Northern Eire
In accordance with a confidential doc, the feedback have been made at a gathering between Mr Reynolds and the British PM in Downing Avenue on 16 June 1993.
After that assembly, each referred to as for talks between Northern Eire political events to renew.
Behind closed doorways, Mr Reynolds vented his frustrations with Ulster Unionist Celebration chief Jim Molyneaux.
He stated: “I’ve all the time had reservations about Jim Molyneaux. Wanting on the scenario from his perspective, what’s in it for him?
“Nevertheless, he has some excellent folks behind him. How can we harness them to help resumption of talks?”
In a later trade, Tanaiste Dick Spring admits he’s apprehensive up the upcoming European elections, warning: “[Ian] Paisley will begin campaigning however there isn’t any actual profit on this for the folks in Northern Eire.”
Mr Reynolds picks up the dialog: “The Unionists really feel they’re underneath siege. Additionally, there may be concern of demographic modifications. Real folks wish to discuss however fears are there.”
In accordance with the memo, Mr Main tells the Irish delegation: “A big a part of the Catholic inhabitants wouldn’t vote for a united Eire – that’s what is claimed.
“The query is how do we supply the Unionists? We are able to take them warmly by – or attempt to persuade them to speak. We might see say to them we are going to see you alright (from a Parliamentary perspective) however now we have not. What can we do?”
Mr Main means that the Taoiseach or the Tanaiste ought to make one other speech to deal with the troubles of unionists, referring positively to a current speech given by Mr Spring.
The Secretary of State for Northern Eire Patrick Mayhew urges Mr Reynolds to do the identical, pointing to unionist issues relating to articles two and three of the Irish Structure and the current judgment of the Irish Supreme Courtroom within the “McGimpsey case”, which noticed a problem to the legality of the Anglo-Irish Settlement.
The 2 articles have been seen as making a territorial declare to Northern Eire.
Mr Reynolds responds: “Till there’s something on the desk, the query of constitutional change won’t come up.”
He continues: “Articles 2 and three haven’t been raised on this method earlier than the McGimpsey case. Symbols are additionally necessary.”
In accordance with the word of the dialog, Mr Reynolds stated that the Authorities’s dealing with of the closure of the Adelaide Hospital in Dublin, which fuelled issues over how the establishment’s Protestant ethos can be protected, ought to ship a message to unionists.
“We’re not dominated by Rome ” he stated.
On the identical assembly, Mr Spring vented irritation on the place of unionist leaders.
“The Unionists can be much better to barter from a place of power. We’re prepared to speak to them. It was irresponsible for politicians to not come to the desk.”
Mr Mayhew says that “their leaders don’t really feel capable of take an imaginative step” and singles out Mr Molyneaux.
“I wish to mobilise public opinion. In Northern Eire, politicians are thought-about to be a priestly class – guardians of the temple. I’ve been strongly criticised for saying that I might go over the heads of the politicians.”
In direction of the tip of the assembly, Mr Main says: “I spoke to an individual on the event of my current go to to Northern Eire who stated that if the talks don’t make any progress, I ought to ask folks to vote on a united Eire.
“They could say ‘sure’ or ‘no’. However suppose there isn’t any progress and the 2 Governments don’t get nearer, then give us a referendum to allow us to turn out to be extra intently built-in into the UK. We must do what we are able to.
“It would basically be a mixture of issues. Braveness can be required. From their very own goal (Unionists) they’re on a one-way avenue.
“Mushy phrases are required from us, smooth motion from you.”
The fabric could be considered within the Nationwide Archives in file 2021/95/21.